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Post by nigeltuffnell on Jan 12, 2006 19:30:26 GMT -5
Besides Mir or Sylvia who could the UFC sign to make the HW division more competitive?
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Post by kiwifighter on Jan 12, 2006 19:42:28 GMT -5
Thats a tough one,i heard a rumour that the UFC HW division might fold soon. I think Pe de Pano could be a force if he works on his stand up a bit more but still hope Mir beats him at UFC57. But as for signing anyone,i think that Pride has the best heavyweights and its pretty hard to compete with their cash
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Post by Ryan Loco on Jan 12, 2006 19:49:27 GMT -5
Sign Herring...It'd make me happy at least.
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Post by kiwifighter on Jan 12, 2006 20:10:31 GMT -5
Sign Herring...It'd make me happy at least. And Herring lol |
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Post by dc on Jan 13, 2006 11:05:41 GMT -5
Alexsander Emelianeko
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Post by #081 on Jan 13, 2006 11:37:13 GMT -5
Everyone says Pride's HWs are better but really they are in the same boat the UFC is in...no one really has much of a chance of beating their champ so it's really a mute point on if the other guys are better. That being said I think a few of their HWs could give AA a run for his money but UFC can't pay those guys what they're making in Pride. UFC has to hope the other HWs in Pride are so desperate for a title they take a pay cut and go to UFC...but with AA there it's still not guaranteed they would win the title.
I think the article on Sherdog about UFC getting rid of the HW division and creating the SHW division was a pretty good idea. If you haven't read that go check it out.
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Post by kiwifighter on Jan 13, 2006 20:42:23 GMT -5
I think if the UFc was offering anything like decent money they'd have a whole bunch of talented heavyweights. Fedor is dominating the japanese HW scene at the moment and below him is cro cop,hunt etc...not an easy path to the title. But the UFC,on the other hand,has Arlovski and below him a bunch of fighters who while being talented,just dont seem to have the right stuff
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Post by yeknom on Jan 14, 2006 5:17:36 GMT -5
Pride's HW's are CroCop, Fedor, Nog, Herring, Hunt, Sergei, Barnett, Coleman Randleman, Aleksander, Fujita, Bob Sapp, Semmy Schilt, James Thompson, and Igor
UFC has Arlovski, Mir, Sylvia, Buentello, Eilers, Kevin Jordan, Brandon Lee Hinkle, Brandon Vera, and Wes Sims.
The UFC HW division is bottom of the barrel awful. The competition is awful. Dana needs to dig deep and court 2-3 HW's in Pride. I'd go with CroCop being that after his fight with Hunt he said he was pretty sick of everything there. Herring is exciting and would run all over everyone in the UFC. I love AA but Herring is no joke. I think getting Hunt, Fedor, either Nog, or Aleksander to the UFC would be close to impossible. They need to do something though.
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Post by Ryan Loco on Jan 14, 2006 14:13:26 GMT -5
The only problem with signing someone like a CroCop or a Herring is that, once the get to the UFC, they aren't losing.
No one in the UFC currently is beating CroCop, no one.
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Post by bvckshot on Jan 14, 2006 18:12:55 GMT -5
I am a big fan of Heath, so i would like to see that. If i were dana though, i would honestly go after coleman and maybe randleman, although if im not mistaken randleman usually fights at 205. Also, If he would lose about 50 or so pounds, I would say bring Ricco back.
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Post by mmalien on Jan 15, 2006 8:23:33 GMT -5
Heath should be in the UFC, the "kiss" thing has made him a house hold name, lots of non mmaers came up to me saying "you see that guy KTFO of that lil happy japanese guy for putting on the moves" i think even the newby's know who he is, if he comes to UFC he would make HW devision one to watch again.
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Post by 00thegorilla00 on Jan 24, 2006 22:15:26 GMT -5
The UFC HW's are a joke we all know it! Mir and Orlovski is all they have worth anything. 170 is where the UFC is at.
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Post by jvd on Jan 25, 2006 3:32:21 GMT -5
dont steal prides fighters, look into other sports, boxers, thai champs, wrestlers, bjj champs.
make them offers, except for boxing, they dont make that much money.
Buy new talent rather than old talent, buying one or two stars is not gonna lift up a division, think to or three years.
Buy cheap talent, develop and have the fedors of tomorrow rather than the fedors of today, with loyalty to the UFC
It will pick up, meanwhile the other divisions are smokin', watch that!
Arlovski is way underrated, so he hasent fought the big names? His fault?
To all you non-believers
I am a big fan of Fedor, but arlovski could just surprise him, why do you think crocop and nog could not beat fedor, being such excelent fighters in their own styles.
Maybe Sambo master vs Sambo master will be better. I actually think arlovski is a better striker.
The only guys fedor has trouble against is strong wrestlers who outmuscle him like randleman and coleman, but he waits them out and submits them. Now do you think Arlovski will let that happen? Only way I can see Fedor dominating Arlovski is outwrestling him and GnP ding him, which seems a dificult task? They fight kind of the same, these sambo guys.
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Post by Austin on Jan 25, 2006 16:33:12 GMT -5
Fedor by his scud missles for arms all the way vs Arlovski. I'm not saying this as if I knew ever heavyweight, but I'm pretty sure the Best Heavyweights around the world are all in Pride, with exception for Arlovski. My list for HW's goes
Fedor, CroCop, Lil Nog, AA, Hunt.....Zuluzinho. I still put cro cop above hunt because I believe crocop to be a better all around fighter who would do much better on his back or during take-down defense than hunt.
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